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Some on this site don't seem to understand why there are so many nudes on this site. It's easy to dismiss this wonder as mostly GWCs ("Guys with Camera") or Fauxtographers using their gear to take advantage of naive young women, proliferating the Internet with horrible snapshots. While, I'll concede there is a fair amount of that happening, think the main reason for the glut of nude work on social media sites like DA is more practical.

I posit that the nude genres, specifically the art nudes, offers the most value than any other genres when it comes to shooting portrait photography. Here is why:

- Buzz
With the advent of social media, it's much easier to create buzz with a nude image than a non-nude one. Nudes draw more attention for a less talented Photographer

- Casting
Whenever I get asked about why I don't shoot fashion work as much as I shoot nudes, I simply reply by stating that shooting fashion that's worth shooting usually means casting a team which I compare to herding cats. Since every person at the shoot is a potential single point of failure, casting for a full team just adds to the complexity of the shoot. With a art nude Model it's usually just arranging with the Model.

- Hair and Make Up Styling
Art nude typically don't require the use of a a Stylist for a high quality production. In fact it may be antithetical to the captures. Glamour, Commercial and Fashion definitely need that and for Beauty it's a requirement. You may luck up and have a Model that is skilled at styling themselves but most are proficient at best.

- Wardrobe Styling
Art nudes don't require much wardrobe, if any at all. Glamour, Commercial and Fashion definitely need wardrobe. That leaves you with either making the investment in obtaining wardrobe or relying on the Model's wardrobe (which she's likely shot to death already).

Hiring a Wardrobe Stylist is unlikely. The good ones are usually located near primary and secondary fashion and commercial centers (e.g. New York , LA, London, etc.) so that they can have access to a number of good designers. You may get some that use the "buy and return"model (btw, NOT RECOMMENDED) to get fashion items that are available at retail or you may get those that shop e-bay, thrift stores or consignment shops to get vintage items. These Stylists tend to be very selective with who they want to work with and add another layer of management that the Photographer has to deal with.

-  Model's Rate
Art Models tend to be much more affordable than the Glamour Models that also do nude work. Art Models are usually between $50-$100 per hour versus the Glamour Model that go for $75-$150 per hour. Art Models tend to be more flexible with rates as well. Now if you are a freelance Model, it's much more challenging to get paid work for Fashion or Commercial work, especially given that all most all Models want to do that work and are willing to do it at low cost or trade unless they are agency repped.

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Just looking at the above mentioned factors, working with an Art Model shooting nudes is a less stressful, more manageable and potentially more affordable option than the other genres. With Fashion, Beauty and Commercial work, you may be able to get everyone to do trade but you are going to pay with the time you spend trying to herd all the cats together for your shoot and every single person involved is a single point of failure versus dealing with just the Model and no one else (save their escort, but that's another post...lol). Also with those types of shoots, you are more likely going to have a massive shoot investment Glamour Models are awesome to work with but can be among the more costly in terms of hiring them for shoots. In my opinion, for the value, art nudes offer the most for the investment given the potential variable for shoot production.

What do you think? Let's propose that you have access to an awesome Model and a complete team of Stylist and access to designer wardrobe that are willing to trade with you but you can only shoot one genre. Which one of these would you shoot and why?

Art Nude
Beauty
Fashion
Commercial
Glamour
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KimJonet Featured By Owner Jun 11, 2013
Nude never goes out of style. Thank you for sharing your logic, wisdom and insight. :)
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BillNyx Featured By Owner Feb 17, 2013
Thank you for the insight and the generosity of your time to share your experience with us.
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massalo Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013   Photographer
more likely art nude, the buzz factior plays an important role.
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jdyez Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Very cogent analysis.
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Musashi-1923 Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013
I love your fotos and I also love your insights. I really enjoy reading comments - very informative.
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soullsurfer Featured By Owner Feb 2, 2013  Student Photographer
I have the same problem with people with critiques, that why i don't shoot fashion and i do only nudes and I should be ashamed by myself that i like doing nudes. Anyway u said perfect ;) . Congratz for the work u do !!
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moosicman45 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Very nicely put, I couldn't have said it any better. Probably in alot less words as well. Which then people would just be confused. lol Care if I use this the next time I have a discussion with a fellow friend about why I shoot nudes?
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perseo1965 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
well stated...
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azulwolfus Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow, I never knew that.
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picturebyclay Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
There is one thing for sure , as a French speaking person, reading the word Fauxtographer ... is simply awesome !

Thanks for that !!!
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NEMIS007 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Very well thought out and presented.
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KingOfOdonata Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Very well written and and informative. Definitely an article I'll share on the subject. You do a wonderful job describing the usefulness of the nude model for photography without even having dived into the artistic value of the subject. I guess that can be part 2 ;)
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darkmatterzone Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Fashion shooters are often not very good at shooting nudes, and don't even do them. And nude shooters are often not very good at shooting fashion. Sometimes it's just good to stick with what you are good at!
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Hannah--M Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
You said this:
Buzz--
With the advent of social media, it's much easier to create buzz with a nude image than a non-nude one. Nudes draw more attention for a less talented Photographer

I'd rewrite it like this:
With the advent of social media, it's much easier to create buzz with a nude portfolio than a non-nude one. Nudes draw more attention for a beginning photographer or model.

Look at it from the model's point of view: In the beginning, when her portfolio only has a couple headshots in it, it's much easier to get a photographer of some repute to be willing to photograph a model who's just starting out if she will do nudes.
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NumptyMcPillock Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Artistic nudes.

I like working one-on-one with the models. Creates a more relaxed & loose atmosphere (especially handy when shooting outdoors!)

I also prefer them to do minimal make-up & hair. I just prefer the more natural look, especially outdoors. You could say i prefer my models to look natural whilst au naturel in nature.
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Flaming-Ink-Imaging Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I typically shoot nudes because the Models tend to be more professional. The other genres are rife with amateurs and seem to almost always turn into a waste of time and resources for me. But given the choice you propose I would jump at the chance to get some of the other work in my port.

I enjoy shooting females in any form or fashion. Almost all have some quality, attribute or talent that is appealing and photo worthy. And makeup and styling bring out the best in all Models in my opinion.

If I have to choose one it would be beauty, with the "glamshion" blend as a close second choice.
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LightphileStudios Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
I agree with you on this one Rodney. The teams are a distraction when making art and I've found that the simpler the better. The less that's going on at a shoot the the focus shifts to the image and art making.
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MountainStrongBear Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The problem is the perception of the human figure. I don't understand why people have a problem with nudity. It is the model who should have the problem, because it is, after all, she who displays her naked body. If she is fine with it, no one can really have a problem with it. Most people, I think, have a problem because they imagine themselves in the position of the model, and become scared shitless at the prospect.
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UnknownSingularity Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Artistic nude is the best for sure :nod:

This website unfortunately is full of conservative haters, that browse the artistic nude galleries to post complains :no:

Don't listen to them. Your art work is beautiful.
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